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Elzada Kartchner

Elzada Kartchner[1, 2, 3, 4]

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  • Name Elzada Kartchner  [5
    Born 25 Apr 1885  Colonia Díaz, , Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 6
    Gender Female 
    Census 1920  Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Name "Zade" Kartchner 
    Name Alzada Kartchner 
    Died 5 Jun 1957  Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 7, 8
    Cause: coronary thrombosis 
    Alzada Kartchner Black death certificate
    Buried 9 Jun 1957  Blanding City Cemetery, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 9
    Alzada K. Black grave marker
    Person ID I227883  Full Tree | Boulter, Palmer, Timmins, Frint
    Last Modified 10 Apr 2015 

    Father John Kartchner
              b. 26 Nov 1851, San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 3 Feb 1946, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 94 years) 
    Mother Lydia Amelia Palmer
              b. 20 Jan 1856, Provo, Utah, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 10 Aug 1896, Colonia Juárez, , Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 40 years) 
    Married 11 May 1874  Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 10
    Family ID F61652  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Husband David Patten Black
              b. 10 Feb 1874, Orderville, Kane, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 20 Oct 1958, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years) 
    Married 25 Nov 1900  Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location  [5, 11, 12
    Children 
    +1. Archie Raymond Black
              b. 5 Jan 1903, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 1 Jul 1975, San Luis Obispo, San Luis Obispo, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 72 years)
    +2. Dora Black
              b. 16 Aug 1905, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 21 Jul 1976, Monticello, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years)
    +3. Nora Black
              b. 16 Aug 1905, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 28 Apr 1979, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years)
    +4. Rhoda Black
              b. 7 Apr 1914, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 21 Mar 1994, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years)
    +5. David Patten Black, Jr.
              b. 1 Oct 1907, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 6 Sep 1989, Monticello, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
    +6. Alvin K. Black
              b. 28 Nov 1910, Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 31 May 1995, Chandler, Maricopa, Arizona, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years)
    +7. Irean Black
              b. 8 Dec 1915, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 6 Mar 1984, Cortez, Montezuma, Colorado, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 68 years)
    +8. Clella Black
              b. 20 Oct 1917, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 2 Sep 2006, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years)
    +9. Vounes Amelia Black
              b. 14 Jun 1921, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 30 Mar 1982, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years)
    +10. Dortha Black
              b. 4 Apr 1923, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 8 May 1973, San Gabriel, Los Angeles, California, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 50 years)
     11. Nancy Lou Black
              b. 22 Aug 1925, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 4 Dec 1931, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 6 years)
    Last Modified 10 Apr 2015 
    Family ID F87907  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 25 Apr 1885 - Colonia Díaz, , Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1920 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 25 Nov 1900 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Archie Raymond Black - 5 Jan 1903 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Dora Black - 16 Aug 1905 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Nora Black - 16 Aug 1905 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - David Patten Black, Jr. - 1 Oct 1907 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Alvin K. Black - 28 Nov 1910 - Pacheco, Galeana, Chihuahua, México Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Rhoda Black - 7 Apr 1914 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Irean Black - 8 Dec 1915 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Clella Black - 20 Oct 1917 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Vounes Amelia Black - 14 Jun 1921 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Dortha Black - 4 Apr 1923 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChild - Nancy Lou Black - 22 Aug 1925 - Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - Cause: coronary thrombosis - 5 Jun 1957 - Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 9 Jun 1957 - Blanding City Cemetery, Blanding, San Juan, Utah, United States Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    John Kartchner, Alzada Kartchner, David Patten Black
    Elzada Kartchner
    Elzada Kartchner Black
    Elzada Kartchner Black with brothers and sisters
    Elzada Kartchner Black at 50th Wedding Anniversary
    Dave & Zade's 50th Wedding Anniversary  1950
    6 daughters of Elzada

    Documents
    Newspaper

    Census
    1920 Federal Census
    1930 Census Blanding, SanJuan, Utah

  • Notes 
    • Death Cert. # 57 18 1145  Reg.# 1139 Book 1600 Pg. 39
      Micro films of Pacheco / Blanding Ward records.

      Also known as Alzada and Zade

           Elzada was a young girl about 15 when she became David Patten Black's second wife.  Hardship and struggle were her life.  When she left Blanding and came to Salt Lake she was penniless.  She pretty much always had to make her own way.
           She suffered several strokes and was paralyzed and speechless before her death, but was remembered as a pleasant, talkative, good nature woman and loved by all.
           Note:  Clella (her daughter) gave the reason her name is spelled with both A & E.  She was given the name Elzada, however when she was older, she wanted to be called Ally and she began to spell the name Alzada. 

      Gram.... by LaVerne Jividen Cabell (Clella's daughter):
           When I was a child, I spent a lot of time with my grandmother, Elzada K. Black.  I loved her dearly.  She was short and fat (at one time wearing a size 50 dress), but that never bothered my cousins or me because of the love we felt from her and for her.
           Grandma made lots of quilts, so she was often sewing.  She taught me and my cousin, Bonnie Karen Smith, how to sew.  She would let us mess around on her sewing machine for hours without ever criticizing, but offering a helpful tip when necessary.  Karen and I loved to spend hours with her... which we usually did while our mothers worked.
           One day she was sitting on the edge of the bed in the back bedroom in the house at 304 Center Street.  (Salt Lake City)  She was talking to Karen and me about smoking.  I don't remember exactly what she said, but by the time she was finished, I plainly stated: "Grandma, I promise you I will never smoke."  That promise has stayed with me throughout my life and has played a major part (along with my testimony of the truthfulness of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) in my decision never to smoke.  I'm not sure why this incident stayed in my mind so firmly, but I'm glad it did.  Perhaps it was the first time I had made an honest, sincere promise to an adult.  I was about 8 or 10 at the time, and Karen was 2 years younger.
           Karen and I were with Grandma when she had the stroke that debilitated her for the remainder of her life.  We were in the upstairs apartment at Center Street.  I was sitting at the sewing machine and Karen was sitting on the bed which was just a few feet away.  Grandma was teaching us how to hem dishtowels from flour sacks.  Suddenly Grandma made a soft, unidentifiable sound and then slumped to the floor on her side.  Karen and I rolled her over, frantically asking what was wrong.  This was my first experience at looking into someone's eyes, only to see a steady, unblinking, empty and glazed look.  It is a look you never forget.  Grandma was also unable to speak, so she could not direct us in what needed to be done.
           She was much too heavy for Karen and me to lift, so we covered her with a blanket and prayed that her daughter, Rhoda Rogers, would soon come home.  (the apartment was in Rhoda's home).
      Our prayers were answered as I believe it was only about 10-15 minutes before Aunt Rhoda arrived.  Karen stayed with Grandma while I ran down to tell Aunt Rhoda there was something wrong with Grandma.  As soon as she saw her, Aunt Rhoda immediately called an ambulance.  Grandma had had a severe stroke.
           From then on, Grandma lived with Aunt Rhoda.  She was mostly bed-fast.  Although she lived several more years (passing away on June 6, 1957), she never regained her ability to do, go, or speak.
           My cousin, Gaylen Rogers, was ill with polio and needed someone to stay with him while the family went to Blanding, Utah, to bury Grandma.  I was pregnant with my son, Chet, so I was the one who stayed behind.  He and I had a great time together.
           When I think of my Grandma Black, I think of fun, happy times, and love.                 02/28/2000
      ***

      Few Thoughts of My Mother
      Alzada Kartchner Black
      By Clella Black Blackner
           There always seemed to be a little bit of a strain in the polygamous marriage of my parents.  Dad first married Theda Kartchner, and they were married for seven years before he married my mother, Alzada.  Theda and Alzada were sisters.
           My mother said that the first time she ever saw Dave Black she thought he was the ugliest red-headed boy she'd ever seen.
           Alzada's parents died and she had no one to take care of her.  They wanted her to live with her older sister, Jane, but she absolutely refused.  So on November 25, 1899, when she was 15 years of age, she married David Patten Black.  Myself, I've wondered if he bedded her right away because of her young age and because of the fact that she didn’t have her first child for nearly four years…which wasn't very common in those days of no birth control.  And maybe that's why after her first child (Arch) was born in 1903, she exclaimed, "Now no one can say I'm not Dave Black's wife."
           Despite the fact that Theda was the first wife, she seemed to always be a bit jealous of my mother.   Once I asked Dad how he knew what to do because when he did one thing mother was mad and if he did another then Theda was mad.  He said, "I just go along and do the best I can".
           Once Aunt Theda asked me, "How come your dad thinks your son Pat is so special?  He’s got a lot of grandsons."  I replied, "I don't know unless maybe it's because Pat thinks he's so special."
           When Nancy Lou was sick, mother was in Salt Lake and she hurried home.  No one was able to help Nancy Lou and she just kept getting sicker and sicker.  Mother made her own bed in the living room with Nancy Lou and waited on her day and night for days.  When she couldn't stand to watch Nancy Lou suffer any longer, she knelt and prayed, "Thy will be done."  It was very soon afterwards that Nancy Lou passed away and mother said, "Dave's mother came after her".
           I asked my dad about his mother once and he gave only one sharp reply: "She was a martinet."  I didn"t know what that meant at the time, but by his reply I knew not to ask for an explanation.  I looked it up in the dictionary and it said, "a stern (strict) disciplinarian".  One time Irene was acting silly and she dressed in a plaid skirt and started strutting around the room, sticking out her butt with her hand on her hip.  All we kids laughed and chanted, "Aunt Marier, Aunt Marier" (referring to Mariah).  So perhaps Rene looked the most like dad's mother.
          When Dora and Nora were living in Salt Lake, Mother wrote to Dora and told her to come home and marry Joe Adams and straighten him out.  Dora came and she did!
           My mother was a short woman, heavy for her height, but also the best natured and had a happy disposition.  She was always helping someone out.  In those days they kept a woman in bed for about 10 days when they had a child.  There was one lady who had quite a few babies and definitely could not afford help.  So with every child, my mother, of her own free will, would go every day and help.
           Momma would card wool for quilts for hours on end, for herself and for anyone else in town that hated it or could pay her a little.  We had a large living room and lots of people put their quilts on there.  It seemed to me there was always a quilt on.  I would sit and listen for hours to the women talk while they worked.
           We had a cow, pigs, chickens, an orchard and a garden.  Mom took care of these things and bottled fruit and vegetables for the winter.  She would do a hundred or more 2-quart bottles of peaches because that was everyone's favorite.  We didn't do a box or even a bushel of peaches...we canned by the Number 3 galvanized tubs full.  When our cow would go dry she would go to our Stake President's house and do laundry and all the heavy cleaning for a gallon of milk each night.
           According to today's standards, I guess we were poor.  But we didn't know that because we were clothed, fed, sheltered and loved.  Mom's way of giving us attention as she busied around the kitchen was to ask us if we knew that you could save a man's life with a comma.  Then she'd say: "Hang him, not let him go", or "Hang him not, let him go".  Or she'd say, "What does O-N-I-O-N spell?"  The way she spelled it and the inflection she would put on it made it hard for a lot of people to figure out.  Instead of just spelling O-N-I-O-N, she'd spell the O-N, then pause, say the I, pause, and spell O-N.  Try it!
           She liked the song, "The Girl That I Marry".  The last two lines were: "A girl I can carry, the girl that I marry must be".  I think she liked the song because she would so liked to have been a girl a man could carry.
           When we moved to Salt Lake, she didn't know the whole town anymore, so it wasn't as often that she found someone to help.  I worked with a girl whose husband left her with nothing but two children.  My mom took her in and tended her kids while she worked until she could make other arrangements.  Never mind that mom couldn't really afford all this. 
           She was Aunt Zade to most everyone and loved by all that knew her.


      Article about a celebration in Pacheco, Mexico.  Our family was probably there.
      Colonia Pacheco, July 24, 1892 Celebration The Deseret Weekly, Volume 45, June-December 1892. By The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, The Deseret News Publishing Co., 1892. p. 256 At Colonia Pacheco "The most remote colony in Mexico celebrated the Twenty-fourth of July in good style. There was a salute of guns at daybreak, another at sunrise, and the hoisting of the Mexican flag by Joseph A. Moffett. The people gathered in the public square at 9:30 and formed in procession under the marshal of the day, A. P. Spilsbury. Following the music of the Sierra Madre band, led by Brother J. T. Whetten, came Apostle George Teasdale, Patriarch Henry Lunt, on the lead, followed by Bishop J. N. Smith, Jr., and the Priesthood of the Ward in their order; then the Relief Society and Sabbath School. They marched to the school house, which the sisters had nicely decorated, and all very much enjoyed the following exercises: The choir sang, "Come we that love the Lord;" prayer by the chaplain, Brother John Rowley; choir sang "High on the Mountain Top" oration by the orator of the day Br. F. Spencer, "Standard of Zion," by the coir; Pioneer addresses, by Father J. G. Hardy and Bro. John R. Young; German song by sister Anna Naegle; representative of the "Mormon" Battalion, Bro. John C. Naegle; music by the band; stump speech, "The Parson and the Miracle," by G. W. Hardy; song, "There's a good time coming, etc., by Jos. Spencer and Sister N. E. Durfee; "The Dutchman's Shnake," by the Dutchman, Geo. C. Naegle;" song, "I'll love you if you'll let me," by Hyrum Cluff and wife; sentiments by Apostle Teasdale and Patriarch Lunt; The choir sang "Nearer Home;" benediction by W. R. R. Stowell. The day was a most favorable one. The afternoon sports comprised foot racing, wrestling, base ball, etc., with dancing for the little folks. The day wound up with a pleasant social party, interspersed with songs, recitations, etc. The health of the people is good and after a long season of drought, we have had refreshing showers of late. The grass and crops promise well, and we anticipate fair returns to both the farmers and dairymen. Geo.C. Naegle, Ward Clerk Colonia Pacheco, Chihuahua, Mexico July 25th, 1892" [5]

  • Sources 
    1. [S2244] Theda Laws or Irene Louise Potter, Personal Genealogical Research, Compiled.

    2. [S2229] 1920 U.S. census, Digital images  (National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), T625.

    3. [S1535] Personal knowledge of Clark Timmins, [ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE]\..

    4. [S1444] Utah State Archives, "Utah Cemetery and Burial Database," database, Utah State History    (http://history.utah.gov/).

    5. [S2891] Personal knowledge of Marla Kirby, [ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE]\..

    6. [S2913] Compiled by Sarah P. Collinwood, The Kartchner Family  (1974, Hiller Bookbinding, Salt Lake City, UT Published by J. Grant Stevenson 230 W. 1230 N. Provo, UT 84601).

    7. [S2744] Death Certificates  death certificate.

    8. [S2741] (..

    9. [S1543] Utah State History, "Cemetery and Burial Database," database, Utah State History - Burials Database    (http://history.utah.gov/apps/burials/execute/searchburials, 2009), 1 53 2 6.

    10. [S1098] Sarah P. Collinwood, The Descendants of George Palmer and Phebe Draper  (Provo, UT: J. Grant Stevenson, 1962.), 444..

    11. [S2903] Latter Day Saint Family History Microfilm.

    12. [S2904] Yates Publishing, U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900  (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - This unique collection of records), Source number: 246.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Cod.


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Marla Kirby says...
Her name is spelled with and 'E'. Elzada
29th July 2013 9:22pm
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Bryan S. Larson (US) says...
Hi Marla, thank you for the comment. Her grave marker, obituary and death certificate all show her name as "Alzada". I recognize that you are closer to her than I am and wonder where the discrepancy comes from. Do you have any documentation that clarifies this?
30th July 2013 5:51am
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